To be fair to the origins of coffee and its development over the centuries into the many different brews and blends we can enjoy today, I would sooner associate the origins with a particular culture rather than a religion, i.e. the Abyssinians. Coffee has always been a custom in some form or another to the culture which holds it. Yes the development of coffee in the Islamic world is significant, but I think it becomes problematic when it is pinned it to a religion.
It would be extremely problematic if everything that Muslims have done or practiced as "Humans" (in the past or present) is labeled "Islamic"! Don't you agree?
Thanks for your eloquence .... I agree with Carr that no one Human (or one Human group) ever ever possessed an objective set of historical facts. Unfortunately throughout Human History, the discipline of "History"has been a tool.
The history of Coffee .. with all its "stories", "fact" and "legends" ... is a Human History. Among the many who used throughout the ages, those who happened to be Muslims have done so as Humans not as "Muslims".
Unfortunately, you still insist on carving out and "Islamic" history of coffee which not all that different from what Pope Clement who was hoping to make it into a "Christian drink".
Appreciate the update! I can see your point of view. I look forward to reading more of your work inshallah.
To be fair to the origins of coffee and its development over the centuries into the many different brews and blends we can enjoy today, I would sooner associate the origins with a particular culture rather than a religion, i.e. the Abyssinians. Coffee has always been a custom in some form or another to the culture which holds it. Yes the development of coffee in the Islamic world is significant, but I think it becomes problematic when it is pinned it to a religion.
It would be extremely problematic if everything that Muslims have done or practiced as "Humans" (in the past or present) is labeled "Islamic"! Don't you agree?
Thanks for your eloquence .... I agree with Carr that no one Human (or one Human group) ever ever possessed an objective set of historical facts. Unfortunately throughout Human History, the discipline of "History"has been a tool.
The history of Coffee .. with all its "stories", "fact" and "legends" ... is a Human History. Among the many who used throughout the ages, those who happened to be Muslims have done so as Humans not as "Muslims".
Unfortunately, you still insist on carving out and "Islamic" history of coffee which not all that different from what Pope Clement who was hoping to make it into a "Christian drink".
thanks for the corrective re the ethiopian contribution to coffee history and culture. much appreciated. nice writing.